Digital 4-Track Challenge

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@nadine

Hey there,

I love 4-track challenges, but I don't have a casette recorder. So I thought I start a #digital_4track. Maybe more people will follow and I group them together.

It's a game of add-a-track, working like this:
A creates the whole song structure with an instrument of choice
B receives the track from A and adds a track with an instrument of choice. They send the mixdown to C and the individual track to the producer.
C receives the mixdown from B, sends the individual track to the producer and the mixdowm to D.
D receives the mixdown from C and sends the individual track to the producer.
The producer is a member of the team who mixes all stems and is allowed to apply some effects like EQ, compressor and reverb. They upload the song with all tagged as collab.

DO's:
- ALWAYS record and export from start.
- The starter should leave 4-8 bars as count-in.
- Export in the file format the producer needs.
- Play on click and send BPM information to your successor and producer.
- Share chord sheet or MIDI with successor and producer.
- Send tracks via one-file-hosters or cloud storage

DON'Ts:
- Change song structure, chords or tempo
- Use samples you don't own the rights for
- Record more than one instrument / VST. Double tracking is okay when it's one instrument, please sent stems individually.
- Send files via e-mail

Let's see how that works 😊

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@nadine

TAPE 1: Upbeat whatever
Quality: WAV, 24bit, 44.1 kHz
Song link: tba
1. @nadine
2. @elesimo
3. @pfoo
4. @cheslain
5. @outinpublicdrummer
Producer: @nadine <---

TAPE 2: Funk / pop / something
Quality: WAV, 24bit, 44.1 kHz
Song link: tba
1. @celineellis
2. @spirulence
3. @jlampson
4. @dreamscuba
Producer: @spirulence <---

TAPE 4: Acoustic Lo-Fi
Quality: WAV, 24 bit
Song link: tba
1. @andygetch
2. @wobbiewobbit
3. @ductapeguy
4. @tuneslayer
Producer: @andygetch <---

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Count me in!

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@elesimo

I'm in too!

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@nadine

@onceandfuturegabi , @elesimo
My tape or a new one? Any particular position?

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@nadine I'm not the strongest mixer in the world, honestly, but I'm happy doing anything. I think the best part of these challenges is that I don't get to pick and choose my roles, I just find a way to add my own thing to something completely outside my control.

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@nadine

I put @onceandfuturegabi and @elesimo into my tape. Hopefully somebody can join as 4th collab partner. No worries on mixing, it's my strong trait.

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@nadine I love this! please drop me in anywhere you need a collaborator or producer.

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YES!!!! i've always wanted to be part of the 4 track crew, but no tape machine for me anymore! Id be more than happy to start a funky pop thingy?

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@nadine

@spirulence: Sure. I think we're running out of producers soon, so your background would be neat. Is a new chain OK?

@celineellis: Just starting or also producing?

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@pfoo

I'd like to try if there is a spot! I'd rather not start or produce.

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@nadine

There you go, @pfoo , @spirulence and @celineellis !

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@nadine perfect! thanks

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@nadine - awesome

@spirulence - I will start, but if you prefer to produce that’s cool. I’m no expert! If your cool with that, let me know what format etc you prefer everything

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@celineellis I will produce! 24bit WAV at 44.1 kHz preferred

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I'll jump on tape 2. I like what I hear from this group!

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@nadine

You're in, @lemonsmoke . We need a 4th for that group πŸ˜„

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OK, this interreges me, very happy (maybe even keen) to be a producer or to just try and take part.

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@nadine

@jimdgreen Would you like to complete the 2nd chain or start a new one as producer? Both makes sense right now.

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@jlampson

Oh gosh, what a great idea. Put me in where it makes the most sense, please. I'm happy to take the last spot on the team that starts with @celineellis for sure!

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@lowhum

Yeah, in, please!

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@nadine

Added you, @jimdgreen, @lowhum and @jlampson. Hope it's OK for @jimdgreen to start and produce the 3rd chain.

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@nadine Ive sent @spirulence track 1 for our 'Tape' cant wait to hear what the team comes up with!

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@jlampson

Thanks as always, @nadine !!!!!

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@nadine ha sorry, was absent from the internet yesterday.

@lowhum will try and get the first track done this weekend . . .

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@nadine

@jimdgreen no worries. I don't expect anybody to be here every fay. Just trying to match teams that could work. Multi-instrumentalists and producers are easier to assign.

Have fun folks!

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@lemonsmoke you're up! sent to you via the email on your profile

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I'm in! I can also produce if needed

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Hi @nadine thanks for starting this. We did one last summer and it was great fun. I suggest an acoustic lo-fi 'tape' and I would be happy to be the producer.

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@nadine

@outinpublicdrummer Thanks, you're in. I put you onto the 3rd tape to avoid starting too many. Hope that's OK.

@andygetch There you'll go!

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@nadine this is cool. I'm definitely interested when I get back from travels and have access to my axe(s).

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@nadine

@dreamscuba Just hit me up and I'll put you onto the list. Bon voyage!

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@nateger

I'm happy to join an open spot!

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@nadine

Ok, Tape 3 closes with @nateger. So the next volunteers may be on Tape 4.

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@nadine

@jimdgreen and @andygetch please forward your wishes on recording quality. You both can start.

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@nadine will do all the do's, for this I will even play on the click πŸ˜‚ .

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@nadine and ( @lowhum, @outinpublicdrumme, @nateger).

Hoping to get this one all started this weekend but unexpected visitors this weekend mean it might be next week now.

All recording quality details and the first track will be forth coming . . . .

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I’m up for it. I’ll need someone walk me through exporting and sending a WAV file.

I did this with one guitar track for each of these songs, but had to be walked through the steps.

https://youtu.be/gcClzr17gVo

https://youtu.be/nB5LQZ2IaeQ

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The videos were made on ROTOR for under $50 each, by the way.

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@nadine

@neverquitjeff I put you into tape 4. I'm sure, somebody could help you on technical issues. Just start a thread or ask somebody who uses the same software. Not here, please, this thread is only for organising groups.

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yeah i would be up for this πŸ˜€

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@w1n

I can both join Tape 4 and start+produce Tape 5, thinking Indie/Folk/Psychpop, 24bit wav, 44.1 kHz

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@nadine

@wobbiewobbit , @w1n you're in!

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Add me to tape 5. Sounds like fun. ... And if this experience.goes well, I may try dust off my cassette 4 track.

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@nadine

I've added you, @ductapeguy

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@cheslain

This is something I've never tried before. Tape 5 sounds like fun, sign me up!

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Tape 5 seems interesting - I'd be down to do something for that

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@nadine

@cheslain , @jordansunlight I've added you. There you go!

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@nadine

I miss the heavy and dark side of FAWM. Maybe somebody wants to start tape 6 and I join later. I don't care if I produce or not.

Feel free to start tape 7 with whatever idea!

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Tape 4 track 1 (my start) has been relayed to @neverquitjeff

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@nadine

Bump. How are your chains progressing? Any status updates?

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@nadine I have no update on Tape 4.

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Tape 3 has been started and sent to @lowhum today.

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@nadine

@jimdgreen Thanks. Does this tape have a name yet? Which Quality are you recording?

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@nadine no name yet, slightly fearful @lowhum will take one listen then pretend they've not received it. Done several 4-track tapes but never started one before, and found it it a more . . . . . pressured/self critical process than I had expected.

Though very excited to see where the others take it and how they interpret what I've done.

As for quality
- 110 bmp
- 24bit
-44.1 khz
- WAV

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@nadine

Short and friendly reminder for:
@onceandfuturegabi , @lemonsmoke , @lowhum, @neverquitjeff and @w1n
Please finish and send your digital 4 track recording until August 14 to your successor. If you cannot make it, forward the files from your predecessor to your successor, thanks!

... and post here when the chain moved, so I can track and push people!

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@nadine

The only way to finish this collab during 50/90 is to continue in a bi-weekly rhythm. I've updated the initial post with deadlines.

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@nadine

Asking the producers @spirulence , @jimdgreen , @andygetch - I fear your digital 4 track chain is stuck. If you haven't received tracks of those with the arrow, I recommend to change the order of your chain and send the current mixdown and information to the successor. Please let me know, if you do, so I can update the tracking post.

@ductapeguy did you receive something from @w1n ? If not, would you be up to start the chain or join another?

Next switch should happen around August 28 if you want to get this collab done.

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@nadine thanks for keeping this moving! I posted a soundboard message to @wobbiewobbit with a link and basic music info for Tape 4 'structure track A'. Based on quick searches, neither of the other two participants in Tape 4 have posted in four weeks. I am wondering if at some point substitutes may be needed for people who do not respond and who are no longer active?

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thanks @andygetch will take a look now, good timing for me as i am currently stuck!

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@nadine

@andygetch I do the following. TAPE 4 is now to @wobbiewobbit and I hope you get some responses from @neverquitjeff and @w1n until beginning of next week. Are they still in? When do they have time? Andy, please decide according to their responses (or silence) about the order or re-staffing of your chain. You're the only one who has or will have all individual tracks.

I keep track of the overview and track the hand overs. By the end of August we all should see if chains progressed, stuck or have lose ends. Maybe I can mend some together or we have a waiting list.

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@nadine thanks and I will keep you posted, hopefully I hear from them or we find substitutes. I like the idea of a waiting list and I volunteer to be on it.

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@nadine. I am still game. I'd prefer to be dropped into another chain if they have holes. But if this one is still stalled after the 24th I can take a stab at starting it.

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@nadine

Good idea, @ductapeguy .To be honest, I also thought about dissolving one chain to fill the gaps of the others. I'll put you on the waiting list to keep track that you're okay with regrouping. I'll know more by the end of next week and come up with a plan.

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@nadine I'm still in and willing to change positions or groups if need be. I'm on a flexible schedule at the moment so I think I can get my part done in a short notice.

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@nadine

Cool, thanks!

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This sounds like it could be a hoot. I'm interested if signups are still available, and could either produce or contribute.

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@nadine I believe @lemonsmoke had to drop out of my chain due to time constraints - I'll catch up with the other members of the chain and see what we can do!

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@nadine - if there is space on a tape or waiting list, I'd like to join...thank you.

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@nadine

@spirulence Thanks. I've changed the order of your chain, so @jlampson is next and receives the current mixdown from you to add a track in the next 2-3 weeks. If we hear something from @lemonsmoke until next week he's in, otherwise I fill that gap.

I put @dreamscuba and @tuneslayer into the waiting list. I'll draw new positions end of next week when I have clear status of all chains.

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Hey @nadine I did have to drop out for a few challenges, unfortunately.

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@nadine

Thank you @lemonsmoke I'll take you off the list, when I reorder chains.

@outinpublicdrummer and @nateger are you still in the game? Have you received any file for your digital 4 track?

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@nadine - thank you!

@lemonsmoke - I'm not sure if you've had a chance to send things over to me yet but wanted to check in. I didn't see anything in my spam folder that shouldn't rightfully be there so just wanted to make sure I don't miss it when it comes in!

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@nadine

@jlampson , you receive the mixdown from @spirulence. @lemonsmoke already said he's out of the game. You can start - I'll draw your successor in the next days.

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@nadine - oh my goodness, I see that now. Thanks for managing all the chaos and I'll look forward to receiving things so far and seeing how I can best contribute!

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@nadine

Dear all,

I've reordered and regrouped ALL chains, so please take a look into the list at the beginning of this topic. TAPE 3 and TAPE 5 has been resolved, because I haven't received the status of the producers. Starting a new tape would be too much stress. If you're on position 2 or 3 in the list, the handover should happen as quickly as possible. Person 4 should get the track until September 11 and the producer should start September 25. Please post when you did your handover so I can keep track. We still have a chance to finish these 4 tracks within 50/90. Go! Go! Go! πŸ₯πŸ’ͺ

Tagging all people in this thread:
@nadine @elesimo @pfoo @cheslain @celineellis @spirulence @jlampson @dreamscuba @andygetch @wobbiewobbit @ductapeguy @tuneslayer @outinpulicdrummer @nateger

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@nadine thank you - I will be travelling 09-16 Sep...so hopefully I get to do my part before or after then...

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Ooh. You have put me in extremely good company, a band of merry jokester, ukesters all. Thanks @nadine.

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@dreamscuba - once I receive the mixdown from @spirulence I will try to turn this over as quickly as I can so you can get on it before your travels!

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@nadine I’m here! Happy to do this still

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Ooooooh and I get to follow @ductapeguy -- this should be fun

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@ductapeguy @tuneslayer @andygetch - i am on it but i hope it is ok with you all if i do lyrics/vocal this early in the chain?

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@nadine

I'm happy you enjoy your positions!

@outinpublicdrummer You'll hear from me when one of these chains reached person 4. It will be a tight deadline.

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@wobbiewobbit works for me!

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@wobbiewobbit I can't wait to hear what you come up with.

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@andygetch @ductapeguy i have messaged you both on fb messenger with links to files

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@wobbiewobbit @andygetch @ductapeguy I'll be happy to bat cleanup on tthis one and fill in the 4th track, whatever it happens to be. Unfortunately I can't coordinate on FB -- I don't have an account.

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@wobbiewobbit great got it thanks!
@tuneslayer my suggestion is to coordinate the rest of the way by email, however, we'll figure it out πŸ˜€

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I'm a bit stretched for time starting this week, but if you need another for the last chain I can do it. And I can produce if needed, as well. The caveat being I'll need to do my bits on a weekend (due to school schedule.) Maybe going last and producing?

Edit to add: I saw your update. No worries if there is no new chain.

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@nadine

@tcelliott I could add you to the waiting list. If some if these chains move quicker than expected we could add a 5th track but it has to be handed in until September 25 to leave some time for production.
Starting a new chain is too hectic because you may do the hand over each week. And there were only 1-2 active people left when I regrouped.

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@nadine No worries. I'll be happy to listen to all the songs when they are finished.
THANKS!

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@dreamscuba - I saw you mentioned your "axe" above. Is guitar your primary and preferred instrument, or do you have others that excite you that you want to use on this? That's also a selfish question because I'm trying to figure out what I want to contribute on this track and how to best support it. Thank you for helping me with my indecisiveness! :)

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@jlampson - yes, guitar is my thang. Thanks...

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@dreamscuba - thanks! I'll put something else on the track instead to leave room for your goodness.

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@nadine Tape 4 status update: Track 3 has been added by @ductapeguy and relayed to @tuneslayer .

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@nadine

Thank you, @andygetch. Please let me know when @tuneslayer is done. Maybe there's a chance to add a 5th track.

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@nadine will do and @tuneslayer has already sent the track. I'm happy to add another!

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@nadine

@pfoo, @jlampson - Please make sure you finish and forward your digital 4-track recordings asap. Let's keep the chains moving! Your friendly reminder 😎

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@nadine - copy that!

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@pfoo

@nadine Sorry! I have fallen into over-thinking and self-critique. I'll record my part and move on πŸ˜€

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@nadine, I sent an email to @celineellis to get some more info for my part. I have something planned so once I get some needed clarification, I'll record this and send it on for the final part!

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@jlampson ive not got an email from you. I’ve checked my junk. There are two β€˜e’s in the middle which often causes an issue.

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@celineellis - I got it! I had just clicked on the link I got from someone but either way I'm glad I got in touch with you. Thanks, and I'll get this one done soon so we can finish your song!

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@pfoo

@cheslain I have finished track 3 of song 1 and sent you an email with the link.

@nadine I sent you the link to my individual part and the mixdown.

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@nadine

@pfoo , @cheslain Thank you! I will check asap!

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Tape 2:
@jlampson and @spirulence - I will be away 09/09-16/09. Thanks

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@dreamscuba - enjoy some time away! I've got my part recorded as a draft but I could use more time to finalize it. Take care!

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@jlampson - thank you... no problem.

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@nadine Finished track 4 of song 1 and sent you an e-mail.

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@nadine

Thank you, @cheslain . I'll check tomorrow and stitch together.

@outinpublicdrummer are you interested in joining our chain? If yes please drop me a mail and I'll forward the material asap. The deadline for your stem would be the 23rd (cause I need some time to mix).

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@nadine I'm still interested! Just emailed you

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@outinpublicdrummer Thanks, I've forwarded you the information! Have fun recording πŸ˜€

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@andygetch , @tuneslayer - Ah sorry I forgot to mention that the 5th member is on my chain now. You can finish your song as the waiting list is empty.

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@nadine will do!

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@dreamscuba - I sent my part to @spirulence via email. I can't find an email listed on your profile. Can you please click on my profile and send me an email and then I'll respond with the link? Thanks!

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@jlampson - thank you. I just sent you an email.

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@dreamscuba - sent you all the things!

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@nadine

Thank you, the list is updated!

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@nadine

The last track of TAPE 1 reached me today, I'm ready to mix! Thank you, @elesimo @pfoo @outinpublicdrummer @cheslain , you'll get my first mix via mail asap.

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@nadine

@dreamscuba , @tuneslayer
How are your tapes doing? Please try to finish this weekend so the producer has time to mix and upload before the site closes.
Tagging the producers @spirulence and @andygetch for your information.

Good luck everybody!

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@nadine - noted. I only have time at weekends to play. Work too full on in the week. I will work on my track tomorrow and sent to @spirulence

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@nadine I have all of the Tape 4 Acoustic lo-fi individual tracks, including one from @tuneslayer and my humble producing/mixing attempt will be complete in a few days πŸ˜€

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@andygetch Thank you, list is updated!

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@nadine and @spirulence - I have sent my stem to @spirulence for tape 2. Thanks...

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Yay were reaching the finish line πŸ₯³ Happy producing! I'm so psyched to hear the songs!